MEMORANDUM ***
Maged Saleh Mohammed Shaibi appeals from the district courts order affirming the decision of the Commissioner of Social Security denying his claim for disability insurance benefits. “We review the district courts order affirming the ALJs denial of social security benefits de novo, and will disturb the denial of benefits only if the decision contains legal error or is not supported by substantial evidence.” Ford v. Saul, 950 F.3d 1141, 1153–54 (9th Cir. 2020) (quotations omitted). We have jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1291, and we affirm.
Shaibi contends the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) erred in crediting the testimony of a vocational expert (VE), who testified at the administrative hearing that a significant number of jobs existed in the national economy that someone with Shaibis residual functional capacity (RFC) could perform. Shaibi argues the VEs testimony was unreliable because he could not provide reasons for crediting the data source he used to identify the number of jobs available in the national economy. He also contends the VEs testimony impermissibly conflicted with the Dictionary of Occupational Titles (DOT).
Shaibis argument that the VE had to explain the underlying data sources reliability for the ALJ to rely on his testimony lacks merit.
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Shaibi did not challenge the VEs expert qualifications. The VE had over 30 years of professional experience and held the certification as a vocational rehabilitation counselor. The Supreme Court has noted that VEs have the expertise and knowledge of the various “working conditions and physical demands of various jobs” and their prevalence in the national economy. Biestek v. Berryhill, ––– U.S. ––––, 139 S. Ct. 1148, 1152, 203 L.Ed.2d 504 (2019) (quotations and alterations omitted). In support of their testimony, VEs may use a variety of data sources including “publicly available sources,” information from employers, or “their own ‘experience in job placement or career counseling.’ ” Id. at 1152-53 (citing SSR 00-4p, 65 Fed. Reg. 75760 (2000)). “Given its inherent reliability, a qualified [VEs] testimony as to the number of jobs existing in the national economy that a claimant can perform is ordinarily sufficient by itself to support an ALJs step-five finding.” Ford, 950 F.3d at 1160 (citations omitted). It is this expertise that “provides the necessary foundation for his or her testimony” and “no additional foundation is required.” Id. at 1158 (quoting Bayliss v. Barnhart, 427 F.3d 1211, 1218 (9th Cir. 2005)). Here, the ALJ could credit the VE based on his experience and his valid reliance on government data.
Shaibi next argues that the ALJ failed to sufficiently address the conflict between the Dictionary of Occupational Titles and the VEs testimony. “[A]n ALJ may rely on expert testimony which contradicts the DOT, but only insofar as the record contains persuasive evidence to support the deviation.” Johnson v. Shalala, 60 F.3d 1428, 1435 (9th Cir. 1995).
In this case, although the ALJ limited Shaibi to sedentary exertion, the VE identified jobs that Shaibi could perform that the DOT classified at the medium or light level of exertion. But the VE explained why he deviated from the DOT. He noted that the DOT categorizes those jobs at the highest exertional level at which they are generally performed but that the jobs he identified (hand packager and small parts assembler) exist at the sedentary exertional level. The number of jobs the VE identified for those occupations was only for the sedentary level of exertion, consistent with Shaibis RFC, and not at the highest levels for those occupations as classified by the DOT. The VE thus sufficiently explained the difference.
In conclusion, the ALJ properly relied on the VE for the prevalence of jobs that someone with Shaibis RFC could perform, and he adequately explained the conflict between the VEs testimony and the DOT.
AFFIRMED.
FOOTNOTES
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. Shaibis counsels own lay interpretation of the raw data does not undermine the reliability of VEs expert testimony, and Shaibi offered no other expert testimony to rebut the VEs testimony on this issue.