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Octavius Collins a/k/a Octavis Collins a/k/a Octavious Collins a/k/a Octavius Monroe Collins v. State of Mississippi

2026-08-04

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IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI

NO. 2024-KA-01333-COA

OCTAVIUS COLLINS A/K/A OCTAVIS APPELLANT COLLINS A/K/A OCTAVIOUS COLLINS A/K/A

OCTAVIUS MONROE COLLINS

v.

STATE OF MISSISSIPPI APPELLEE

DATE OF JUDGMENT: 04/06/2023

TRIAL JUDGE: HON. LEE JACKSON HOWARD V

COURT FROM WHICH APPEALED: CLAY COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT

ATTORNEY FOR APPELLANT: AUTUMN BREEDEN SMITH

ATTORNEY FOR APPELLEE: OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

BY: DANIELLE LOVE BURKS

DISTRICT ATTORNEY: SCOTT WINSTON COLOM

NATURE OF THE CASE: CRIMINAL - FELONY

DISPOSITION: AFFIRMED - 08/04/2026

MOTION FOR REHEARING FILED:

EN BANC.

LASSITTER ST. PÉ, J., FOR THE COURT:

¶1. Octavius Collins was convicted of the second-degree murder of James Roberson in

the Circuit Court of Clay County. Consequently, the circuit court sentenced Collins to serve

forty years in the Mississippi Department of Corrections, with ten years suspended, followed

by post-release supervision. On appeal, Collins argues that the Weathersby1 rule afforded him

an absolute legal defense and that the trial court erred by denying his motion for a directed

verdict. He also claims he received ineffective assistance of counsel. However, after our

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Weathersby v. State, 165 Miss 207, 147 So. 481 (1933).

review, we find no reversible error and affirm.

FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY

¶2. On November 25, 2020, Octavius Collins was at the Windale Apartments with his

girlfriend Tracy Roberson (Tracy) and her brother, James Roberson (Roberson). Tracy went

to bed at approximately 10:00 p.m., and roughly three hours later, in the early hours of

November 26, Collins shot and killed Roberson. Collins was then indicted by a Clay County

grand jury for the first-degree murder of Roberson pursuant to Mississippi Code Annotated

section 97-3-19(1)(a) (Rev. 2020). Collins’s trial began in April 2023, and he was convicted

of the lesser-included offense of second-degree murder.

¶3. At trial, Collins claimed that he had shot Roberson in self-defense. Collins testified

that as he was in the kitchen, which he described as a “tight” space, Roberson entered the

kitchen and “bumped” him. Collins and Roberson then got into a verbal altercation. Collins

then left the kitchen and went to the living room and retrieved a gun from the couch.

Roberson followed Collins into the living room and allegedly told Collins, “I know you got

a weapon. I’m gonna take that weapon and whoop your . . . ass with it.” Collins claimed that

he responded by telling Roberson to “back up off [him]” and to “leave [him] alone,” but

Roberson “kept coming” toward him. Collins stated that he “knew” Roberson was going to

hurt him, so he shot Roberson once; but Roberson “didn’t do anything,” so Collins fired the

second shot. After the second shot hit Roberson, Roberson fell against the wall.

¶4. Collins stated that after Roberson fell, he went to Tracy’s room and told her that he

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had shot Roberson, and she needed to call 911 to “get him some help.” Collins then left the

complex with the gun, and Tracy called the West Point Police Department to report that

Roberson had been shot.

¶5. While police and paramedics went to the complex, Collins drove to his other residence

where he rented a room. Once he arrived, he placed the gun in a BBQ grill and later received

a text from Tracy informing him that Roberson had died. Collins then went back to Windale

and was taken into custody by law enforcement.

¶6. Officers Traver Jung and Jacob Moss were two of the first officers on the scene, and

at trial, both men were called as witnesses by the State. Officer Jung stated that once police

arrived at the apartment complex, he activated his body camera and rushed to Tracy’s

apartment.2 Upon their arrival, they saw Roberson on the floor “losing a lot of blood.”

Officer Jung also stated that he observed two gunshot wounds to Roberson, “one in the

shoulder and the other [in] kind of [the] chest area.” Roberson succumbed to his injuries.

¶7. Officer Jung testified that when Collins returned to the apartment complex on the

morning of November 26, he spoke briefly with Collins. Officer Jung testified that he heard

Collins say he killed Roberson and “knew where the gun was.” Jung then reported the gun’s

location to another officer, and the gun was discovered at Collins’s other address inside the

grill.

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Officer Jung’s body-camera footage was submitted into evidence and published to the jury over Collins’s objection.

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¶8. Moss also spoke with Tracy and learned that Collins had admitted to her that he shot

Roberson. Accordingly, Moss arrested Collins after he returned to the scene. When asked to

describe Collins’s demeanor upon returning to the complex, Moss stated that Collins “didn’t

show any emotion, none at all.” During cross-examination, Moss acknowledged that he could

not say whether Collins acted in self-defense, nor could he provide any evidence of “why”

Roberson was shot.

¶9. Tracy testified that Roberson had been living with her and Collins for approximately

three months before the shooting occurred, and in that time, Collins never indicated to her

that he was afraid of Roberson. However, she did say that in the ten years she dated Collins,

he and Roberson never got along, although she did not know why. Tracy also testified that

Collins usually kept the gun in an apartment drawer, but when she went to bed, the gun was

“in the cushion . . . on the [living room] couch.”

¶10. She went on to say that on the night her brother died, there were no signs of trouble

brewing between the two men, and the three of them had all been “up drinking” until she

went to bed around 10:00 p.m. When she went to sleep, Collins and Roberson were in

separate rooms listening to music, and the next thing she remembered was Collins coming

into her room, waking her up, and telling her that he had shot Roberson. According to Tracy,

Collins apparently said, “I shot your brother, but he’s not hurt. Call the ambulance[,]” and

then left the apartment. Collins did not tell her why he shot Roberson nor how many times

Roberson had been shot. Tracy then got up to see if Collins was telling the truth and found

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Roberson bleeding on the floor.

¶11. The final witness called by the State was Detective Ramirez Ivy, the lead investigator.

When he arrived at the Windale Apartments, Detective Ivy processed the crime scene. Ivy

took photos showing the position of Roberson’s body, the blood spatter, and the location of

the shell casings. Those photos were published to the jury over the defense’s objection. Ivy

testified that no weapons were found near Roberson’s hands and that he did not observe any

gunpowder burns on Roberson’s body. Ivy explained that if there were gunpowder burns on

Roberson, it “would have indicated that the shooter was in close proximity to the . . . victim,”

but the absence of these burns indicates that Collins was not in close proximity to Roberson

when he fired the shots.

¶12. Detective Ivy also spoke with Tracy and learned that Collins and Roberson had

“never” gotten along. Tracy also mentioned that Collins had been complaining about

Roberson earlier that day.

¶13. Detective Ivy attempted to speak with Collins at the police station, but Collins “reeked

of alcohol,” so Detective Ivy had Collins transported to the Clay County Jail to sober up. The

next day, Detective Ivy interviewed Collins at the jail. Although the interview was recorded,

the recording was not submitted into evidence. However, Ivy drafted a written report after

the interview, which was submitted into evidence. After Collins signed a Miranda3 waiver,

he told Ivy that he had shot Roberson in self-defense. Collins also told Ivy that he never got

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Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436 (1966).

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along with Roberson and characterized Roberson as a “bully.” According to Ivy, Collins told

him that he and Roberson had gotten into a “verbal altercation” in the kitchen after Roberson

bumped him.

¶14. Collins claimed to Detective Ivy that after Roberson followed him into the living

room, Roberson told him, “I know you got a mother f***ing gun. I ain’t scared of your

mother f***ing gun. I’ll take your gun and beat your mother f***ing ass.” Collins went on

to tell Ivy that he warned Roberson to “back up off me” but Roberson “kept coming,” so he

reached to the couch “in-between the cushions and got the gun.”

¶15. Collins told Ivy that as Roberson “came at him,” he shot Roberson once, but Roberson

said, “I’ve been shot before. That ain’t nothing,” and kept coming towards him, so he shot

Roberson a second time. Ivy stated that Collins never explained why he chose not to call 911

after shooting Roberson, or why Tracy was the one who needed to contact 911. Collins also

told Ivy that after waking Tracy up, he left the apartment complex and took the gun to his

other apartment.

¶16. Ivy also asked Collins if Roberson had been holding a weapon when he approached

him in the living room, but Collins replied that he could not remember. Collins concluded

by telling Ivy that he returned to the apartment complex after Tracy told him Roberson had

died to “turn himself in because he didn’t want a manhunt after him.”

¶17. After interviewing Collins, Detective Ivy obtained security footage from the Windale

Apartments. The State moved to have the security footage played by the jury, but the defense

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objected, claiming the videos were “inaudible” and did not “accurately reflect the scene of

the things that actually happened.” The objection was overruled, and the footage was

published to the jury. In the videos Collins can be seen exiting the apartment, walking to his

car, and then driving away. Moments before Collins appears on video, yelling or raised

voice(s) can be heard, followed by two gunshots in quick succession.

¶18. After a brief cross-examination and redirect, Ivy was released from the stand, and the

State rested. The jury was then excused, and the defense moved for a directed verdict, which

the court denied.

¶19. Collins then took the stand. Collins explained that prior to the altercation with

Roberson, he was “feeling pretty good” and bore Roberson no ill will. Collins also claimed

that he was not aggressive toward Roberson in any way before the shooting. When asked

how the altercation with Roberson began, Collins explained he was washing chitlins in the

kitchen sink in preparation for Thanksgiving when Roberson entered the kitchen and

“bumped” into him.

¶20. According to Collins the kitchen was a “tight” space with very little room to

maneuver, so he asked Roberson, “[B]ro, you don’t see me working in here?” Collins

claimed this caused Roberson to go “haywire” and become “aggressive.” Collins stated that

Roberson then began “ranting” at Collins, claiming Collins did nothing to help around the

house, and said that Tracy paid all the bills while Collins did nothing but watch TV.

¶21. Collins then left the kitchen and went to the living room, where he retrieved a gun

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from the couch. Roberson followed Collins into the living room and allegedly told Collins,

“I know you got a weapon. I’m gonna take that weapon and whoop your . . . ass with it.”

Collins claimed that he responded by telling Roberson to “back up off [him]” and to “leave

[him] alone,” but Roberson “kept coming” toward him. Collins stated that he “knew”

Roberson was going to hurt him, so he shot Roberson once; but Roberson “didn’t do

anything,” so Collins fired the second shot.

¶22. When asked why he shot Roberson, Collins claimed it was in self-defense because he

“feared for [his] life” and to “stop [Roberson] from hurting me.” Collins went on to say that

he was diagnosed with Lupus in 2014, and therefore, he could not get bumped, hit, or bruised

and believed Roberson was going to “do some damage” to him.

¶23. Collins testified that after shooting Roberson, he went to Tracy’s room, woke her up,

and told her to call 911 because he had shot her brother. Collins then left the apartment,

taking the gun with him. Collins claimed he told Tracy to call 911 and left the apartment

because “the situation could [have gotten] worse” if he was at the apartment when the police

arrived.

¶24. On cross-examination, the State asked Collins if Roberson’s statements—that he did

nothing around the house—made him angry, but Collins replied, “not at all,” saying

Roberson’s claims were “wrong.” When questioned about the gun, he claimed that the gun

was Tracy’s, but he had bought it for her. He also stated that the gun was usually kept in the

bedroom in a lockbox, but Tracy had been “playing” with it earlier in the day, so he took it

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from her and left it on the couch. When asked if he remembered telling Detective Ivy that the

pistol was “hidden in-between the cushions of the couch,” Collins said the gun was never

“hidden.” Instead, he claimed the pistol was simply “on the couch,” where he had left it.

When asked why he did not exit the apartment or call the police instead of shooting

Roberson, Collins replied that “he didn’t have a chance.”

¶25. During cross-examination Collins claimed for the first time that he shot Roberson in

fear for his life because Roberson had threatened to kill him during their argument. The State

questioned why Collins never mentioned Roberson’s threat to Detective Ivy or during his

direct examination, and Collins claimed it was because he “wasn’t asked that question.”

Additionally, Collins acknowledged that he was the only person holding a weapon in the

living room that night and that he fired the first shot when Roberson was forty inches away

from him.

¶26. The State also asked Collins why he left the apartment with the gun instead of

performing CPR on Roberson, remaining in the apartment, or calling the police. Collins

stated that he left because in those “situation[s]” emotions run high, and because he was there

with a gun, he did not “know how the police [were going to] act,” so he thought it was in his

best interest to leave. Collins went on to say that he left the apartment and went to his other

residence because he wanted his roommate to drive him to the police station. Collins stated

that when he arrived at his other residence, he remained outside waiting for his roommate to

get their car keys, so he simply put the gun in the BBQ grill for the sake of convenience. He

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denied that he went there to hide the gun.

¶27. The State asked Collins why he did not drive directly to the police station instead, and

he replied it was because he did not have a license. When confronted with the security

footage that showed him driving a vehicle away from the Windale apartment complex,

Collins explained that he did not want to leave his car at the police station.

¶28. Furthermore, the State asked Collins if he remembered telling Detective Ivy that in

between shots one and two, Roberson said, “I’ve been shot before. This don’t phase me,” and

Collins replied, “yes.” Collins then reiterated that Roberson had spoken in between the shots.

Yet Collins also acknowledged that the surveillance footage captured the sound of two shots

being fired in quick succession with no audible voices or talking between shots. Collins

called no other witnesses, and both sides rested. Collins renewed his motion for a directed

verdict, which was denied. The jury found Collins guilty of second-degree murder, and the

trial court sentenced him to forty years in the Mississippi Department of Corrections, with

thirty years to serve, ten years suspended, and ten years of post-release supervision.

¶29. Collins filed a motion for a judgment notwithstanding the verdict or a new trial,

claiming that the circuit court committed error by failing to grant him a directed verdict in

accordance with the Weathersby rule and that he received ineffective assistance of counsel.4

The circuit court found Collins’s post-trial motion without merit and denied it. Collins then

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Collins’s trial counsel filed this motion, asserting his own ineffectiveness.

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filed the instant appeal.5

ANALYSIS

I. The Weathersby Rule

¶30. On appeal, Collins argues that the circuit court erred by not granting him a directed

verdict of acquittal under the Weathersby rule. However, Collins is mistaken, as the rule did

not apply in the instant case.

¶31. We begin by noting that Collins’s motions for a directed verdict and judgment

notwithstanding the verdict challenge the legal sufficiency of the evidence supporting his

conviction. “[R]eversal is warranted where . . . a reasonable and fair-minded juror could only

find the accused not guilty.” Thomas v. State, 416 So. 3d 102, 110-11 (¶19) (Miss. Ct. App.

2025).

¶32. Additionally, the Weathersby rule states that “where the defendant or the defendant’s

witnesses are the only eyewitnesses to the homicide, their version, if reasonable, must be

accepted as true, unless substantially contradicted in material particulars by a credible witness

or witnesses for the state, or by the physical facts or by the facts of common knowledge.”

Morrison v. State, 332 So. 3d 396, 400 (¶19) (Miss. Ct. App. 2022) (citing Weathersby v.

State, 165 Miss. 207, 147 So. 481, 482 (1933)). “Where the Weathersby rule applies and the

defendant’s version affords an absolute legal defense, the defendant is entitled to a directed

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Although it does not affect this Court’s disposition, we note that Collins was granted an out-of-time appeal.

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verdict of acquittal.” Thomas, 416 So. 3d at 111 (¶20).

¶33. However, “it is a rare case that meets all of the requirements of the Weathersby rule.”

Id. Moreover, the rule does not apply when “the defendant’s conduct and statements

following the killing are inconsistent with his version of the events as recounted at trial.”

Morrison, 332 So. 3d at 401 (¶20). Lastly, the “defendant’s version must be reasonable and

credible before he is entitled to an acquittal under the rule.” Strickland v. State, 192 So. 3d

1105, 1108 (¶11) (Miss. Ct. App. 2016).

¶34. It is undisputed that Collins, Tracy, and Roberson were the only ones in the apartment

when Roberson was shot. Accordingly, Collins argues that under Weathersby he was entitled

to a directed verdict because he was the only eyewitness to the shooting and because the State

failed to provide substantial evidence to contradict his version of events. Therefore, he claims

that his version should have been accepted as true and that the circuit court committed error

by denying his motion for a directed verdict.

¶35. However, the State presented substantial evidence to contradict his version of events,

and Collins’s version of events changed from his interview to the witness stand. For example,

during direct examination Collins claimed that after he fired the first shot at Roberson,

Roberson “didn’t do anything,” so he fired the second shot. Yet, during cross-examination,

Collins claimed that after the first shot, Roberson said, “I’ve been shot before. This don’t

phase me[,]” which then prompted Collins to shoot Roberson a second time. Collins also

agreed that during his interview with Detective Ivy, which had occurred less than twenty-four

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hours after the shooting, he told Ivy that Roberson had spoken between shots.

¶36. We also note that although Collins spoke with Tracy immediately after the shooting

and then Detective Ivy shortly thereafter, Collins never mentioned that Roberson had

threatened to kill him that night. Yet, during cross-examination, for the very first time,

Collins claimed Roberson had threatened to kill him right before the shooting. As previously

stated, the Weathersby rule is inapplicable when “the defendant’s conduct and statements

following the killing are inconsistent with his version of the events as recounted at trial.”

Morrison, 332 So. 3d at 401 (¶20).

¶37. Additionally, the surveillance footage submitted at trial captured raised voices

followed by the sound of two shots in quick succession. At trial, Collins himself

acknowledged that no audible voices or talking could be heard between the shots and agreed

that the shots were fired almost back-to-back, contradicting Collins’s shifting claim that he

only shot Roberson a second time after Roberson continued to advance toward him.

¶38. Here, Collins told distinctly different versions about his altercation with Roberson

while on the stand and immediately after the shooting. As discussed supra, “a defendant’s

version must be reasonable and credible before he is entitled to an acquittal under the rule.”

Strickland, 192 So. 3d at 1108 (¶11). Accordingly, the Weathersby rule did not apply to this

case, and the circuit court did not err in denying Collins’s motion for a directed verdict,

submitting these factual issues to the jury, and denying his post-trial motion seeking acquittal.

II. Ineffective Assistance of Counsel

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¶39. Collins also claims that he received constitutionally ineffective assistance of counsel

at trial. In making this argument, Collins asserts two points of error. First, he claims his trial

counsel’s failure to properly object to the introduction of the Windale security footage or

cross-examine Detective Ivy about the video’s contents demonstrated a “lack of basic

proficiency in the rules of evidence” and constituted deficient representation. Additionally,

he claims his counsel’s failure to submit the recorded interview between Collins and

Detective Ivy into evidence for the purposes of impeaching Ivy’s testimony shows that his

trial counsel lacked “mastery of basic evidence concepts.” Collins therefore asks this Court

to reverse his conviction and remand this case for a new trial.

¶40. Regarding a defendant’s claim of ineffective assistance of counsel brought via direct

appeal, this Court has stated:

A defendant is permitted to raise the issue of ineffective assistance of counsel

on direct appeal. However, when this issue is raised, this Court’s review is

strictly limited to the appellate record. Generally,

ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims are more appropriately brought during

post-conviction proceedings. This Court will address such claims on direct

appeal when (1) the record affirmatively shows ineffectiveness of

constitutional dimensions, or (2) the parties stipulate that the record is

adequate and the Court determines that the findings of fact by a trial judge able

to consider the demeanor of witnesses, etc., are not needed. We may also

address such claims on direct appeal when the record affirmatively shows that

the claims are without merit. If the record on direct appeal is insufficient to

address a defendant’s ineffective assistance claims, we will dismiss the claims

without prejudice, preserving the defendant’s right to raise the claims later in

a properly filed motion for post-conviction relief.

Doss v. State, 398 So. 3d 933, 947 (¶65) (Miss. Ct. App. 2024).

¶41. Although the State stipulates that the record is adequate to consider Collins’s claims,

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we are not bound by the State’s stipulation. See id. at (¶66); Harris v. State, 378 So 3d 971,

980 (¶36) (Miss. Ct. App. 2024). As discussed infra in response to the dissent, there is simply

too much we do not know to conclude affirmatively that Collins’s counsel was or was not

ineffective. “We therefore deny without prejudice [Collins’s] claims of ineffective assistance

so that if he chooses, he may raise them in a properly filed motion for post-conviction

collateral relief (PCR).” Doss, 398 So. 3d at 947 (¶66).

¶42. The dissent argues that Collins’s counsel’s performance prejudiced the outcome of

his case and that the Court should reverse and remand for a new trial. However, the dissent’s

arguments are premised on speculation and assumption—precisely the reason why most

claims of ineffective assistance of counsel are best left for PCR proceedings.

¶43. The dissent first argues that counsel’s actions regarding the apartment footage failed

to bolster Collins’s defense and acted to prevent true application of Weathersby. Collins

himself argues that counsel was deficient by failing to have the video excluded. So Collins

does not want the video admitted at all, while the dissent believes the video not only should

have been admitted but also highlighted in order to bolster Collins’s defense. This

discrepancy alone should doom a finding of ineffective assistance, as it illustrates the

potential strategy, not ineffective performance.

¶44. But the real issue with the dissent’s position as to the apartment video is that it is

based on assumption and opinion. The dissent assumes that trial counsel did not listen to the

video before trial and disagrees with his assessment of the recording. Our subjective

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interpretation of counsel’s actions are not proper grounds for finding ineffective assistance.

¶45. The dissent also questions “the sufficiency of the equipment used in the courtroom,”

suggesting that Collins’s counsel should have ensured “the proper equipment was available.”

This statement requires a significant assumption on the dissent’s part and highlights why so

many ineffective-assistance claims are best left to PCR proceedings—because we simply

cannot tell from a cold record what might have occurred. This is why in PCR proceedings,

the petitioner is required to support his claims of ineffective assistance with affidavits other

than his own, and it is why we cannot entertain Collins’s argument on direct appeal—so that

the Court does not make assumptions with no evidence to support them. See Lindsay v. State,

720 So. 2d 182, 184 (¶6) (Miss. 1998) (“[W]here a party offers only his affidavit, then his

ineffective assistance of counsel claim is without merit.”).

¶46. As to counsel’s alleged failure to challenge Ivy’s testimony about Collins’s interview,

it is unnecessary to discuss the dissent’s contentions because the dissent acknowledges that

Collins cannot prevail on this issue under Strickland: “we cannot determine whether Collins

was prejudiced” by counsel’s failure to lay the foundation for impeachment. Post at ¶67. But

even the dissent’s assumption that counsel was deficient for not impeaching Ivy requires an

assumption that Ivy could have been impeached. Plus, the decision not to impeach Ivy could

have been strategic. We simply do not know because we do not have the recording.

¶47. Finally, the dissent suggests that counsel’s post-trial motion, in which he admitted his

failures regarding Ivy’s direct and cross-examination, supports a finding of ineffective

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assistance. But, as stated, we cannot discern from this record whether Collins’s case was

impacted by these decisions. Collins’s post-trial motion referred to his failure to object to

“expert forensic testimony” from Ivy, who had not been accepted as an expert witness. Ivy’s

alleged expert testimony was that there were no burn marks on the victim, suggesting that

Collins was not close to Roberson when he shot him. But Collins never claimed to be close

to Roberson when he fired, only that the victim was moving closer to him during the

argument.6 It is difficult to see how this alleged failure impacted Collins’s defense.

¶48. The dissent also notes that counsel has been suspended from the practice of law by

the Mississippi Supreme Court following criminal charges apparently pending during his

representation of Collins. Again, the dissent notes that “[i]t is unclear from the record in the

present case whether this pending criminal charge affected Carr’s representation of Collins.”

Post at ¶71. That is not the standard for a Strickland-level ineffective-assistance-of-counsel

claim, which requires proof that counsel was deficient and that “the deficiency was so

substantial as to deprive the defendant of a fair trial.” Holly v. State, 716 So. 2d 979, 989

(¶37) (Miss. 1998) (citing Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 687-96 (1984)).

¶49. In sum, the dissent’s problem with counsel’s performance appears to be that he did

a bad job. However, too much of the dissent’s argument and conclusions about counsel’s

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The State’s brief notes that Collins testified that Roberson was “getting too close” to him and suggests that this was why Collins claimed to have needed to act in self-defense. But Collins’s testimony that Roberson was “too close” actually took place in the kitchen, not the living room, where the shooting occurred. Collins testified that he left the kitchen to get away from Roberson because Roberson was “getting too close.”

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decisions requires assumptions and guesswork. Not to mention that a cornerstone of the

dissent’s argument—that counsel should have utilized the apartment video better—is directly

opposite that which Collins argues on appeal. We do not have sufficient information at this

stage to conclude that counsel’s actions were anything other than strategic or that they

prejudiced the outcome of Collins’s case.

CONCLUSION

¶50. After our review of the record, we find that Collins was not entitled to a directed

verdict under Weathersby. The Weathersby rule did not apply in the instant case, as Collins

provided varying accounts of Roberson’s final moments and statements. We decline to

address Collins’s claims of ineffective assistance of counsel on direct appeal. The judgment

of conviction and sentence by the Clay County Circuit Court is affirmed.

¶51. AFFIRMED.

CARLTON AND WILSON, P.JJ., WESTBROOKS, LAWRENCE AND

WEDDLE, JJ., CONCUR. McDONALD, J., CONCURS IN PART AND IN THE

RESULT WITHOUT SEPARATE WRITTEN OPINION. EMFINGER, J., DISSENTS

WITH SEPARATE WRITTEN OPINION, JOINED BY BARNES, C.J., AND

McCARTY, J.

EMFINGER, J., DISSENTING:

¶52. I cannot in good conscience vote to affirm Collins’ conviction because his attorney,

Charlie A. Carr, rendered constitutionally ineffective assistance of counsel at all stages of

Collins’ representation. Because Carr’s deficient performance prejudiced Collins’ defense

in this case, I would reverse Collins’ conviction of second-degree murder and remand the

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matter to circuit court for a new trial. Therefore, I respectfully dissent.

¶53. On appeal, Collins’ ineffective assistance of counsel argument focuses on two matters

that were crucial to both the State’s case and Collins’ defense: (1) the admission and use of

the video/audio recording from the apartment complex and (2) the cross-examination of a

State’s witness concerning Collins’ recorded, pre-trial statement to law enforcement. In Kirby

v. State, 379 So. 3d 915, 921 (¶¶8-9) (Miss. Ct. App. 2024), this Court explained the factors

that must be considered in deciding whether Collins received ineffective assistance of

counsel:

“A strong but rebuttable presumption exists that counsel’s performance was

effective.” Moffett [v. State], 354 So. 3d [929,] 936 (¶14) [(Miss. Ct. App.

2022)]. “[T]o prevail on a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel, a

defendant must prove that his attorney’s performance was deficient, and that

the deficiency was so substantial as to deprive the defendant of a fair trial.”

Morrow v. State, 275 So. 3d 77, 83 (¶24) (Miss. 2019) (quoting Holly v. State,

716 So. 2d 979, 989 (¶37) (Miss. 1998)) (applying the two-pronged test for

ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims announced in Strickland v.

Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 687-96, 104 S. Ct. 2052, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674 (1984)).

“Whether counsel’s efforts were both deficient and prejudicial is

examined based on the totality of the circumstances.” Reed v. State, 204 So.

3d 785, 790 (¶17) (Miss. Ct. App. 2016). The burden of proving both prongs

for ineffective assistance is on the defendant, and “[i]f either prong is not met,

the claim fails.” Murray [v. State], 345 So. 3d [610,] 621 (¶28) [(Miss. Ct.

App. 2022)] (quoting Havard v. State, 928 So. 2d 771, 781 (¶8) (Miss. 2006)).

“Decisions that fall within the realm of trial strategy do not amount to

ineffective assistance of counsel.” Ford v. State, 230 So. 3d 316, 320 (¶9)

(Miss. Ct. App. 2017). For “matters of trial strategy, this Court generally

defers to the judgment of counsel.” Braggs v. State, 121 So. 3d 269, 275 (¶20)

(Miss. Ct. App. 2013) (quoting Houston v. State, 887 So. 2d 808, 815 (¶34)

(Miss. Ct. App. 2004)). Trial counsel’s decision not to object is “presumed

strategic unless counsel’s tactics are shown to be so ill chosen that it permeates

the entire trial with obvious unfairness.” Greenleaf v. State, 267 So. 3d 749,

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752 (¶11) (Miss. 2019) (quoting Rogers v. State, 85 So. 3d 293, 297 (¶16)

(Miss. 2012)).

(Emphasis added). We must look to the “totality of the circumstances” to determine whether

Carr’s representation was deficient and whether Collins was prejudiced as a result.

I. Pre-trial Proceedings

¶54. Collins was indicted for first-degree murder in the shooting death of James Roberson.

The death occurred on or about November 26, 2020, and the indictment was filed in circuit

court on April 7, 2021. On April 12, 2021, Marlin Stewart was appointed to represent

Collins, and Collins waived arraignment on the charge. Later on that same date, Carr entered

his appearance as retained counsel for Collins. Carr filed a motion for discovery on April 14,

2021, and in this pleading Carr indicated that his office was in Dallas, Texas. An agreed

order allowing Stewart to withdraw as Collins’ attorney and substituting Carr as counsel was

entered on April 23, 2021. Carr filed a second motion for discovery on May 24, 2021, along

with a motion for a bond reduction for Collins.

¶55. Court records show that on September 21, 2021, the court administrator emailed Carr,

noting that the motion for bond reduction had not been set for hearing and asking whether

Carr would like to set the matter for hearing on either October 4 or 8. While no response to

that email is in the record, the next action of record is Carr’s request for a continuance of a

scheduled appearance on October 4 due to a trial conflict with a client on that date. The court

entered an order granting the continuance and setting the matter for trial on January 18, 2022.

¶56. On January 14, 2022, Carr filed a second motion for a continuance, indicating that a

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client was scheduled for a trial during the week of January 18, 2022. The motion further

stated that Carr was in quarantine due to a positive COVID-19 test by a member of his

household. The trial court entered an order of continuance, resetting Collins’ trial for July 18,

2022. At 7:09 a.m., on the morning of Monday, July 18, Carr sent an email to the court

administrator indicating that the trial date had not been placed on his calendar and that while

he was ready for trial, he could not get to court before Tuesday. The administrator replied

that Collins’ trial would be bumped to Wednesday due to trials in other cases. On July 19,

2022, an agreed order of continuance was entered indicating that Carr had asked for

additional time to prepare for trial. Collins’ trial was reset for October 10, 2022. This order

was signed by Carr.

¶57. On October 14, 2022, the trial judge signed an order continuing Collins’ trial until

April 3, 2023, because Carr did not appear for trial. The trial court entered an “Order

Requiring State to File Show Cause Petition.” In this order, the court noted that Carr had

failed to appear for trial. The order stated that the District Attorney’s office tried numerous

times to contact Carr by phone and email, but “Carr failed or refused to respond.” The order

noted that because the court was “loathe to leave Defendant in jail without representation,”

the court removed Carr as counsel and reappointed Stewart to represent Collins.7 An order

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There is no evidence that Carr had ever scheduled a hearing on Collins’ motion for a bond reduction, well over a year after the motion was filed. The record shows that Collins posted bond in the original amount of $150,000 on October 17, 2022, days after Carr failed to appear for trial.

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setting Carr’s show cause hearing for January 5, 2023, was entered.

¶58. Carr appeared on January 5 and, according to the court’s order, presented a “legally

sufficient excuse for his failure to appear.”8 The court entered an order allowing Carr to

resume representation of Collins, whose trial remained set for April 3, 2023. A discovery

conference and motion hearing date was set for March 7, 2023. The record reflects that Carr

filed no pre-trial motion to challenge the admissibility of the video/audio recording from the

apartment complex or any other evidence the State intended to introduce at trial. If a hearing

was conducted on March 7, there is no transcript in the appellate record to show what

occurred.

II. Trial

¶59. On April 3, 2023, the trial court qualified the jury venire, which would be used for

Collins’ trial beginning the following day. On that day, Carr filed proposed defense jury

instructions that included a self-defense instruction and an instruction that purported to

submit the Weathersby rule decision to the jury.9 Based upon the jury instructions submitted

by Carr and his opening statement, it is clear that Carr’s trial strategy was to show the jury

that Collins shot and killed Roberson in self-defense. Carr intended to show that Collins’

version of events should be sufficient to result in an acquittal pursuant to Weathersby. The

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There is no transcript of this hearing in the appellate record. We do not know what excuse Carr presented to the court.

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The Weathersby rule is used by the judge to determine, as a matter of law, whether the defendant is entitled to a directed verdict. It should not be submitted to the jury by an instruction. See Vance v. State, 429 So. 3d 912, 921-22 (¶52) (Miss. 2026).

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State called seven witnesses to testify during its case-in-chief. Collins testified as the only

witness in his defense, and, as noted by the majority, told the jury his version of events that

led to him shooting Roberson. Collins testified he was scared that Roberson was going to

hurt him. On direct examination, Collins told the jury that after they left the kitchen,

Roberson came at him again in the living room, but this time Roberson was “amped up

worser.” Collins testified Roberson

started clutching. He kept coming. He kept coming. You know when

somebody want to do something bad to you. So I knew he gonna hurt me, so

I fired the first shot, right? He didn’t do anything. Fired the second shot. He

fell back to the double doors in the hallway.

Collins also told the jury that he had been diagnosed with Lupus and takes an anticoagulant

called Warfarin. He explained that he “can’t be bumped, hit, bruised, roughhouse, none of

that.” Collins said that he fired the shots at Roberson “because I feared for my life. He was

fixing to do some body damage to me.”

¶60. I will now address those portions of the State’s case where I would find that Carr’s

performance was deficient and that it significantly prejudiced Collins’ defense. First, I find

that introducing the video/audio recording from the apartment complex into evidence should

have bolstered Collins’ self-defense claim but, instead, was used to prevent the application

of the Weathersby rule and to impeach Collins’ credibility before the jury.

¶61. The district attorney’s investigator, Ramirez Ivy, testified that he went to the Windale

Apartments and retrieved a video/audio recording from a camera on the building where the

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shooting occurred.10 Ivy testified that the system was working correctly during the early

morning hours of November 26, 2020. Ivy downloaded the recording from the apartment’s

system onto a thumb drive. Ivy further advised the court that the thumb drive contained an

accurate copy of what was recorded on the apartment’s system. The State then offered the

thumb drive into evidence. Carr objected to its admission, and during a bench conference,

the following exchange occurred:

By Mr. Carr: Your Honor, my objection is my understanding of those

videos are inaudible; that they don’t accurately reflect the

scene of the things that actually happened, That’s my

objection.

By the Court: That’s your only objection for getting this in?

By Mr. Carr: Yes.

By the Court: Mr. Amos?

By Mr. Amos: So number one, he can certainly cross-examine Detective

Ivy, but number two, they do accurately show what

occurred from the standpoint of surveillance video then

and there that night or early morning of November 26,

2020, and Mr. Ivy has testified to that so they’re

absolutely admissible.

By the Court: That specific objection that you raise, Mr. Carr, is

overruled. Do you have any other objection?”

By Mr. Carr: No. None, Your Honor.

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This camera was located on the outside of a building containing numerous apartments. While the recording shows only the outside of the apartments and the area leading to the parking lot, the audio apparently picked up sounds from inside the apartments.

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(Emphases added). At that point, the video/audio recordings were admitted into evidence.

¶62. In publishing the recording to the jury, the State fast-forwarded to a specific place in

the recording, and the State asked Ivy, “And so, we’re starting to hear voices.” As they

continued to play the recording, Ivy testified that he could hear only one voice and that he

could not identify whose voice it was. The State then played a second video where two

gunshots were heard. Ivy testified that after the gunshots, he still heard the same voice he had

heard before the gunshots. This implied that the voice he heard on the recording was Collins’

voice and not Roberson’s. From my review of the recording, that is not correct. On crossexamination, however, Carr did not ask Ivy a single question about the voices on the

recording.

¶63. I would reverse Collins’ conviction based primarily on Carr’s handling of the

video/audio recording. It appears that Carr did not review, or at least did not closely review,

this recording prior to trial. Carr’s objection was that it was his “understanding” that the

recordings were inaudible. Upon my review of the recording on my computer, with only

computer speakers and no special equipment, I strongly disagree with Carr’s assessment of

the recording. I could clearly hear portions of the confrontation described by Collins where

Roberson is aggressively yelling at Collins in a loud and threatening manner. Roberson

repeatedly challenged Collins to shoot him. I can hear Roberson say, “I’m right here, try me

and see!” and “I will show you what’s up!” Roberson calls Collins a motherf***er, a pu**y,

a scalawag, a b**ch, and a bastard. While it is true that portions of the exchange are not

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audible, I can clearly make out two different voices, not just one, as testified to by Ivy. It is

Roberson’s loud voice that is audible at times and could have been used to support Collins’

claim of self-defense. Had Carr reviewed this vital piece of evidence prior to trial, he should

have been trying to enhance this portion of the recording and not objecting to its admission

at trial.

¶64. Further, had Carr reviewed this recording with Collins prior to trial with proper

equipment, it is reasonable to believe that Collins could have identified Roberson’s voice on

the recording. During Carr’s direct examination, he did not ask Collins one question about

the recording. During Collins’ cross-examination, the State asked whether he heard voices

on the recording. Collins responded that he heard something, but he could not make out who

it was.11 Carr objected to the line of questioning because “[i]t’s already been proven that the

video was inaudible.” This causes me to question the sufficiency of the equipment used in

the courtroom and what may have been available to the jury during deliberations. Again, if

Carr had reviewed the recording with Collins prior to trial, he should have sought to enhance

a copy of the recording and made sure that the proper equipment was available so that

Roberson’s aggressive behavior could have been heard by the jury.

¶65. Because of Carr’s failure to hear, or failure to appreciate what could be heard, the

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jury’s attention was not drawn to Roberson’s aggressive behavior, through the examination

of witnesses or in Carr’s closing argument to the jury. As stated in Kirby above, I would find

that Carr’s performance relative to the video/audio recording from the apartment complex

was both deficient and prejudicial to Collins’ defense.

¶66. At the close of the State’s case-in-chief, Carr made a motion for a directed verdict:

Your Honor, at this time the Defense would like to move for a directed verdict

on the basis that the State hasn’t met their burden of the evidence for the

charges of first degree murder.

However, in Carpenter v. State, 400 So. 3d 493, 501-02 (¶29) (Miss. Ct. App. 2024), this

Court maintained:

The supreme court has stated that “[a] motion for a directed verdict on the

grounds that the [S]tate has failed to make out a prima facie case must state

specifically wherein the [S]tate has failed to make out a prima facie case.

Motions for a directed verdict must be specific and not general in nature.”

Sheffield v. State, 749 So. 2d 123, 126 (¶10) (Miss. 1999) (citation omitted).

Further, at the close of all the evidence, Carr failed to renew his motion for a directed verdict,

which was the appropriate time to raise the Weathersby rule. Instead, during the jury

instruction conference after the trial court informed Carr that Weathersby was a question for

the court, the trial court reminded Carr that he had not requested a peremptory instruction and

had not renewed his motion for a directed verdict. The court advised Carr that it would be

appropriate to raise Weathersby at that time.

¶67. Appellate counsel agrees with Carr’s post-trial motion, that Carr was ineffective by

failing to properly lay a foundation to challenge Ivy’s testimony concerning Collins’

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statements during the recorded interview. First, it is clear that because the State had not

introduced any portion of the recorded interview, Collins could not introduce the entire

interview. See Simmons v. State, 805 So. 2d 452, 489-90 (¶¶95-96) (Miss. 2001). Carr may

have been able to introduce portions of the interview to impeach Ivy’s testimony concerning

statements made by Collins, had he laid the proper foundation. Had Carr asked Ivy whether

it was true that Collins did not tell him that Roberson said anything to Collins between the

shots, portions of Collins’ recorded statement may have become admissible. However, we

cannot know what Collins said to Ivy because Carr did not proffer the recorded statement at

trial or with his post-trial motion. Therefore, while Carr’s performance was deficient by not

knowing how to lay the proper foundation, we cannot determine whether Collins was

prejudiced by it. However, under the totality of the circumstances, this is further evidence of

Carr’s deficient performance and may well have further prejudiced Collins’ defense.

III. Post-trial Proceedings

¶68. On April 16, 2023, Carr filed a “Motion for a New Trial or/and a Judgment

Notwithstanding the Verdict” on Collins’ behalf. In this motion, Carr admitted his error in

attempting to have the jury instructed as to the Weathersby rule. Carr argued that the trial

court erred by not applying the rule to this case and granting Collins a judgment of acquittal.

More importantly, Carr admitted in the motion that he provided ineffective assistance of

counsel for Collins.

¶69. In the motion, Carr specifically refers to his failure to object to expert forensic

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testimony given during the State’s direct examination of Detective Ivy. Ivy had not been

tendered nor accepted by the court as an expert witness. Carr admitted that he compounded

the error by his questioning of Ivy on cross-examination.

¶70. Carr also admitted that he was ineffective by being unable to impeach Ivy with his

recorded interview with Collins. Carr did not mention his failure to properly address the

admissibility of the video/audio recordings from the apartment complex, especially regarding

the voices heard on the recording. He does not mention his failure to proffer at trial, or with

this motion, the recording of Ivy’s interview of Collins. In fact, Carr expressly waived a

hearing on his post-trial motion where he could have developed the record regarding his

failure to provide constitutionally effective counsel.

IV. Carr’s Felony Conviction and Subsequent Suspension from the

Practice of Law in Texas and Mississippi

¶71. On April 16, 2026, in Cause No. 2025-BD-00731-SCT, the Mississippi Supreme

Court suspended Carr from the practice of law as a result of his Texas conviction of sexual

assault.12 Carr was sentenced to serve ten years in prison. The formal complaint filed by the

Mississippi Bar reveals that the date of the offense for which he was convicted was January

20, 2021. It would appear that this criminal charge was pending during his representation of

Collins. It is unclear from the record in the present case whether this pending criminal charge

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We take judicial notice of the supreme court’s records in this matter which are “readily available via MEC and cannot reasonably be disputed.” See Jackson v. State, 394 So. 3d 420, 432 (¶43) (Miss. Ct. App. 2024).

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affected Carr’s representation of Collins. I would note, however, that Carr sought numerous

continuances of the trial herein due to unidentified conflicts, and Carr failed to set the motion

for bond reduction for hearing, even after being reminded by the court administrator. On one

occasion, Carr failed to appear for trial and was removed as counsel in Collins’ case. Carr

appeared for a show cause hearing on January 5, 2023, however, and presented a “legally

sufficient excuse for his failure to appear.” As discussed above, we have no transcript of that

hearing in the appellate record, and therefore we do not know what justification was

presented by Carr. Whatever the reason, we know that Carr was removed from representing

Collins for a couple of months leading up to Collins’ trial.

V. Carr’s Failure to Provide Constitutionally Effective Assistance of

Counsel at all Stages of his Representation of Collins

¶72. The issue before us is whether Carr rendered constitutionally ineffective assistance

of counsel to Collins. My focus is on Carr’s failure to be prepared to properly present a vital

piece of evidence, the video/audio recording, to the jury. The State used this piece of

evidence to prevent the application of the Weathersby rule and to impeach Collins’ trial

testimony concerning self-defense. Carr was also not prepared to challenge Ivy’s testimony

concerning statements made to him by Collins in a recorded interview. The State used Ivy’s

testimony about these statements to prevent the application of the Weathersby rule and to

undermine Collins’ claim of self-defense. I would find that the appellate record is sufficient

for us to make a determination on direct appeal.

¶73. In Taylor v. State, 167 So. 3d 1143, 1146 (¶5) (Miss. 2015), the supreme court stated:

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Whether a defendant has received ineffective assistance of counsel is a

question of law reviewed de novo under two prongs: “[f]irst, the defendant

must show that counsel’s performance was deficient . . . . Second, the

defendant must show that the deficient performance prejudiced the defense.”

Strickland v. Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 687, 104 S. Ct. 2052, 80 L. Ed. 2d

674 (1984). While post-conviction proceedings are often the most appropriate

forum for review of ineffective assistance of counsel, we “may nevertheless

reach the merits of the ineffectiveness issue where . . . the record affirmatively

shows ineffectiveness of constitutional dimensions. . . .” Read v. State, 430 So.

2d 832, 841 (Miss. 1983).

In Taylor, the defendant was convicted of possessing stolen property and was sentenced as

an habitual offender to ten years in prison. Id. at 1144 (¶1). Prior to trial, Taylor’s counsel

had filed a motion in limine to exclude evidence of Taylor’s past criminal history. Id. at (¶3).

The trial court delayed its ruling on the motion until trial, after Taylor had made his decision

as to whether he would testify in his own defense. Id. At trial, just before Taylor took the

stand to testify, the defense counsel withdrew his motion in limine. Id. Counsel advised the

court that he was going to admit that he was a felon. The State reminded everyone that Taylor

had three prior felony convictions. Id. Still, Taylor’s attorney withdrew the motion and on

direct examination, Taylor admitted that he had violated his probation for his conviction of

the sale of cocaine. Id. at 1145 (¶13). On cross-examination, the State asked what felony

crimes he had been convicted of. Id. Taylor responded that he had been convicted of house

burglary, alteration of a motor vehicle VIN, possession of a firearm by a felon, grand larceny,

and two cocaine charges—a total of six prior felony convictions. Id. at 1145-46 (¶¶3-4).

¶74. The supreme court reversed Taylor’s conviction and remanded the matter for a new

trial, holding:

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We find that Taylor’s right to a fair trial was compromised by defense

counsel’s withdrawal of the Motion in Limine regarding Taylor’s criminal

history and by failure to object to the State’s extensive cross-examination

regarding Taylor’s prior convictions. When evaluating whether counsel’s

performance was deficient, trial counsel “is entitled to the presumption that his

actions fell within the ambit of sound trial strategy, [but] that presumption is

not absolute.” Herrington v. State, 102 So. 3d 1241, 1246 (Miss. Ct. App.

2012). In a criminal trial on the lone charge of possession of stolen property,

where the State’s prime witness previously had changed his story to police

about which individual he purchased the stolen property from, we cannot

conceive a trial strategy that would justify failure to object to the

introduction and detailed description of the defendant's seven or eight

previous felony convictions. The State’s extensive cross-examination

regarding Taylor’s numerous past felony convictions was clearly more

prejudicial than probative in a case that largely turned on the respective

credibility of Taylor and the State’s main witness.

. . . We agree with Judge Irving’s dissent in the Court of Appeals opinion that

“it appears that Taylor’s counsel thought that by placing Taylor on the stand,

the prosecution was entitled to inquire, without any limitation, into the details

of all of the prior convictions that Taylor had.” This erroneous assumption

had a highly prejudicial effect on Taylor’s defense. . . .

We hold that Taylor was denied his constitutionally guaranteed right to

effective assistance of counsel due to his attorney’s failure to object to the

introduction of Taylor’s numerous past felony convictions on

cross-examination. The prejudicial effect of these admissions clearly

outweighed any probative value in allowing them.

Id. at 1146-47 (¶¶7-9) (Emphasis added). In the present case, if Carr assumed that the

recording was inaudible, that assumption was in error and prejudiced Collins’ claim of selfdefense. Further, I cannot imagine a competent trial strategy that would justify Carr’s failure

to raise before the jury Roberson’s aggressive and threatening behavior that was revealed on

the apartment surveillance recording.

¶75. In a similar case where defense counsel failed to properly address the defendant’s

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criminal history, on direct appeal in Timms v. State, 54 So. 3d 310, 316 (¶20) (Miss. Ct. App.

2011), this Court reversed the defendant’s conviction and determined:

It is clear that Timms’s trial counsel failed to render effective assistance of

counsel. Timms’s trial counsel apparently knew nothing of Timms’s actual

criminal history, allowed the State to introduce evidence of crimes that

Timms had not been convicted of, failed to seek a stipulation as to Timms’s

status as a previously convicted felon, and then compounded these errors by

questioning Timms and other witnesses as though Timms had been convicted

of possessing a stolen firearm when he had not. For these reasons, we reverse

and remand for a new trial at which Timms should receive constitutionally

effective counsel.

(Emphasis added). In the present case, Carr apparently knew nothing about the audible parts

of the recording that supported Collins’ version of events, i.e., that he was being aggressively

threatened by Roberson and feared for his safety.

¶76. In Sea v. State, 49 So. 3d 614, 617 (¶8) (Miss. 2010), the defendant was acquitted by

the jury on three counts of statutory rape and one count of sexual battery. However, Sea was

convicted on five counts of sexual battery. Id. During the trial, defense counsel introduced

evidence of Sea’s two prior felony convictions, each over twenty years old, and, more

importantly for purposes of the present case, failed to properly prepare to challenge the

admissibility of a video tape. Id. at 618-19 (¶¶14, 21). In reversing Sea’s convictions the

supreme court stated:

Under these circumstances, evidence of Sea’s prior convictions for sexual

battery—one involving a child under thirteen years of age—was incendiary.

This Court has stated “[e]vidence which is incompetent and inflammatory in

character carries with it a presumption of prejudice.”

Additionally, we note that Sea’s counsel failed to object to the introduction of

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the videotaped interviews of the four victims. The tapes were rife with hearsay

statements from both the victims and the interviewers. Not only did Sea’s

counsel fail to object contemporaneously to the admission of the videotapes,

but he failed to request a hearing as required by our rules of evidence.

Id. at (¶¶20-21). Here, Carr filed no pre-trial motions to address issues presented by the

recording from the apartment complex or for the jury to be able to hear an important portion

of the recording that could have been vital to Collins’ claim of self-defense.

¶77. On direct appeal in Hibbler v. State, 115 So. 3d 832, 834 (¶1) (Miss. Ct. App. 2012),

this Court reversed Hibbler’s conviction of statutory rape because he received ineffective

assistance of counsel. Hibbler’s counsel, Hosford, failed to interview witnesses and prepare

for cross-examination of important witnesses called by the State. Citing Davis v. Alaska, 415

U.S. 308, 316 (1974), this Court noted that “[c]ross-examination is the principal means by

which the believability of a witness and the truth of his testimony are tested.” Hibbler, 115

So. 3d at 840 (¶27). Hosford had information that the victim had previously accused someone

else of raping her, but incorrectly believed that he would be prevented from introducing the

evidence. Id. at (¶26). More importantly, Hosford had information that the victim had

indicated that Hibbler did not rape her or have inappropriate contact with her, but Hosford

did not cross-examine the victim with this information. Id. at (¶27). Ultimately, this Court

concluded:

“Defense counsel may not fail to conduct any investigation and then rely on

the resulting ignorance to excuse his failure to explore a strategy that would

likely have yielded exculpatory evidence.” Gersten [v. Senkowski], 426 F.3d

[588,] 610 [(2d Cir. 2005]. Based on a totality of the circumstances, we must

conclude that there is a reasonable probability that, but for Hosford’s deficient

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performance, the result of Hibbler’s trial would have been different.

Accordingly, we reverse the judgment of the circuit court and remand this

matter to the circuit court's active docket for retrial.

Id. at 843 (¶33). In Murray v. State, 345 So. 3d 610, 621 (¶28) (Miss. Ct. App. 2022), this

Court discussed the meaning of “reasonable probability”:

Stated differently, “[t]he defendant must show that there is a reasonable

probability that, but for counsel's unprofessional errors, the result of the

proceeding would have been different. A reasonable probability is a

probability sufficient to undermine confidence in the outcome.”

(Emphasis added).

¶78. In conclusion, the majority contends that my dissent is premised upon speculation,

assumptions and guesswork. The majority finds that “there is simply too much we do not

know to conclude affirmatively that Collins’ counsel was or was not ineffective.” It is true

many of the issues raised above could well be fleshed out in a post-conviction relief filing;

however, that is not the end of our analysis. While many things concern the effectiveness of

Carr’s representation of Collins, which we may not be able to accurately discern from the

appellate record, it is not what we do not know, but it is what we do know that should result

in a reversal of Collins’ conviction.

¶79. As noted above in Kirby, our analysis of whether Carr’s efforts in his representation

of Collins were both deficient and prejudicial must be based upon an examination of the

totality of the circumstances. I have set forth above many, but not all, acts or omissions by

Carr that could have negatively impacted Collins’ self-defense claim. It could be argued that

some of these failures are the result of poor trial strategy, but just as in Taylor, I cannot

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conceive a rational trial strategy that would excuse Carr’s more serious failures.

¶80. Carr’s failure to know the law regarding the Weathersby rule and how it applies is

inexcusable and deficient. Carr’s failure to know how to lay a foundation to impeach a

witness concerning pretrial statements made by Collins on a recording is inexcusable and

deficient. Carr’s failure to know how to proffer for appellate review Collins’ recorded

statements to law enforcement is inexcusable and deficient. These deficiencies in Carr’s

representation of Collins show his general lack of attention to the important details of the

case and general lack of preparation to present Collins’ self-defense claim at trial. Without

question, Carr’s lackadaisical approach in his representation of Collins prejudiced Collins’

self-defense claim when Carr failed to hear and/or appreciate the extremely aggressive verbal

attack upon Collins by Roberson just prior to the shots being fired. This is not speculation,

assumption, personal opinion, or guesswork. This is recorded evidence that should have been

used to support Collins’ claim of self-defense. Carr’s failure to prepare for and properly

utilize this valuable piece of evidence is “sufficient to undermine confidence in the outcome”

of Collins’ trial. I would reverse the conviction and remand for a new trial.

BARNES, C.J., AND McCARTY, J., JOIN THIS OPINION.

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